Ironically, when many people talk about science-based approaches to bodybuilding and powerlifting, they often do so in black and white terms: something is either “evidence-based”, or not. I say this is ironic, because the actual studies these approaches are based on always report the probability that their findings are correct. Not only that, but different types of scientific studies themselves exist on a continuum; some publications carrying much more “evidential weight”, while others serve as very weak evidence in comparison, just as a function of their design.
So why is there this disconnect? I believe some of it comes down to personality. Most people who are drawn to scientific inquiry as a means to inform their practice as an athlete or coach, also tend to be analytical thinkers. It is a good thing to be an analytical thinker, but in my experience most analytical thinkers are also most comfortable with clear cut, objective answers and thus, they stray towards viewing information in absolute terms. That’s the other side of the coin which is the Achilles heel for an analytical thinker which you have to be mindful to keep in check. Because in reality, science is an ever-evolving beast built on statistics that at best can provide probabilities of correctness and disprove falsehoods, but almost never provides immutable truth.
So how can we align our interpretation of science-based information with the science itself? One very useful way which I was originally exposed to in a presentation by Swedish science communicator Jacob Gudiol at the Academy For Personal Trainers 2017 convention in Oslo Norway, was the concept of having levels of confidence in your knowledge.
Adapting this concept and putting it in my own terms, this means that for something “evidence based” you might have a very high confidence level of 1 (the highest) or only a theoretical leaning with a confidence level of 5 (the lowest). Below I have outlined my take on this concept with 5 levels, their guidelines so you can assess your current knowledge and perhaps what level of confidence you should have for various aspects of it, and common training and nutrition examples to help you see how these levels can be applied.
Level 1
This level of confidence is as close to an immutable truth as we get in science. When multiple meta-analyses (statistical analyses of many studies on the same topic combined to give a bird’s eye view of the literature on a topic) have been performed over multiple eras, all confirming the same outcome, you can be pretty damn confident in this knowledge. For example, the concept that if you are in an energy deficit you will lose mass is not even debatable (at least using facts). I challenge anyone to find a single study where subjects were placed on an energy restricted diet in a metabolic ward (ensures perfect adherence and gives a measurement of energy expenditure to ensure a deficit is imposed) where body mass losses didn’t occur. Another example would be the dose response curve of training volume with strength and hypertrophy: as volume of training increases, so too does the rate of strength gain and hypertrophy, until it begins to plateau, then slow, and then on the extreme far end of very high volumes of training, backslide. Not only does every adaptation to exercise occur in such a manner (that’s just how we work as a survival mechanism), but we have meta analyses spanning the early 2000’s to those being published just recently confirming this outcome [1-7].
Level 2
Knowledge at this level can be discussed from a position of strong confidence. At this level, there might be only a single meta-analysis, or perhaps a group of controlled trials in which the majority have the same finding, and only an odd, underpowered study has a finding where the two compared variables in question are not significantly different. While not quite as strong as level 1, level 2 knowledge is certainly at a level of confident application for coaches, and promotion for science communicators. An example might be that a protein intake of at least 1.6g/kg is needed to confidently maximize the strength and hypertrophy response to resistance training in most individuals. While a previous meta-analysis in 2012 found that protein supplementation in and of itself improved these outcomes [8], this meta wasn’t able to provide a specific guideline for total daily intake. It wasn’t until recently that a meta-analysis was published that did just that [9]. Information at level 2 tends to be more specific than level 1, which is typically relegated to broader, more universal truths (such as the volume of exercise influences the adaptation, or that we lose body mass without the energy to support it). This specificity is partly why the confidence tends to be a bit lower, because in some situations and in some individuals, the relationship might change a bit. For example, it may be that protein intake should be higher when dieting [10] or for certain outlier individuals with a higher requirement during intense phases of training [11].
Level 3
At this level, you may have one or two studies supporting a finding, without any data to the contrary. Not many studies have been done, but the one or two studies that have been performed are based on a sound underlying theory, and their outcomes match what is seen in the field. As a practitioner, it is certainly reasonable to apply information at this level, just be aware that while it’s unlikely these findings will do a complete 180-degree flip, in the long run data might end up showing the findings aren’t all they were originally cracked up to be. For example, a recent study found that taking periodic 2-week diet breaks where you eat at controlled maintenance intake (not ad libitum) during a weight loss period enhances fat loss and curtails the adaptive reduction in resting energy expenditure that occurs due to dieting compared to a diet without breaks [12]. Prior to this 2017 study, we only had one study done back in 2002 on diet breaks showing that a similar system using uncontrolled breaks did not interfere with weight loss, but also did not slow it down [13]. As I said, it’s unlikely these findings will completely flip; i.e. I seriously doubt a study will be published showing that taking 2 weeks off from dieting and eating at maintenance results in a decrease in resting energy expenditure and makes weight loss harder when you go back to dieting. However, it is possible that diet breaks might end up only making a mental difference without helping fat loss physiologically…although I doubt that is the case given the outcome of the recent study and our field observations of clients using diet breaks.
Importantly, this is the first level where you really need to consider risk management; meaning, you have to consider the potential downside of applying this information if it ends up being false. For example, if diet breaks end up not helping fat loss, I have added to the length of time an athlete needs to prep for…granted the added time isn’t hard as it is at maintenance, and we account for this by using longer preps. But, that is exactly the type of consideration you should go through before implementing a strategy that you aren’t completely confident in. However, sometimes the downside is hardly worth worrying about. For example, contrary to what we used to believe in the scientific community, the benefits of post workout protein intake probably aren’t much to write home about if you are consuming a high protein diet already [14], but there is really no potential harm in having some of your daily protein intake within 2 hours of training.
Level 4
At this level, there is actually no high quality direct evidence supporting the knowledge. However, it is based on sound theory, there is some published indirect or low quality (not a controlled study) evidence that supports it, and it matches field observations. Knowledge at this level can certainly be communicated as evidence-based, but often requires disclaimers and context for when it would be useful or how it should be applied (i.e. only applicable to athletes, and only in certain situations), and may indeed change as more data is produced. For example, the claim that muscle group training frequencies higher than 2-3x/week are beneficial for advanced lifters to optimize strength and hypertrophy is a level 4 claim. This claim is based on the theory that as higher stress levels are needed to continue making gains as you progress your lifting career, it may be better to distribute that stress over more days per week so as to avoid any single day from becoming too taxing and diminishing the quality of the work performed. In addition, it’s been theorized that because the protein synthetic response to training stays elevated for shorter time periods in well-trained lifters, more frequent sessions may help to prevent the slowing of muscle gain [15]. In addition to these being reasonable theories, there is a conference abstract (a scientific study that was presented, but has not yet gone through peer review and been published in a journal) which found high level powerlifters gained more strength and muscle mass when splitting their volume over 6 vs 3 sessions [16]. In addition, there is data showing that splitting up the volume of a single session into multiple daily sessions can improve the adaptive response in well trained strength athletes [17-20]. However, systematic reviews and meta analyses on this topic have found that frequencies of training muscle groups and movements 2-3x/week consistently outperform lower frequencies for both hypertrophy and strength. Also important, in these publications it is specifically stated that there is not enough data to assess frequencies above 2-3x/week [4, 5, 21, 22]. Indeed, the claim that a 2-3x/week muscle group or movement pattern frequency is superior to 1x/week when all else is equal (and when using reasonable volumes and training loads), is arguably a level 1 or 2 claim. But claims made about even higher frequencies simply can’t be made as confidently. For example, a study on untrained lifters found no significant differences between a muscle group frequency of 2 vs 3x/week with matched volume [23], likewise a recent study on recreationally trained lifters (men with roughly a bodyweight bench press) found no significant differences between a 2 and 4x/week frequency with matched volume [24], and finally a conference abstract from 2016 found no significant differences between a 3 and 6x/week frequency with matched volume in recreationally trained lifters (men with a 1.25, 1, and 1.5x bodyweight squat, bench press, and deadlift respectively). Thus, it seems that not only is there no high-quality data showing frequencies beyond 3x/week could benefit high level lifters, there is indeed data showing it likely won’t benefit novice and intermediate lifters.
In the face of such data, you have to couch your conclusions and consider that you could be wrong. For example, while I am reasonably confident that frequencies higher than 3x/week could benefit high level physique and strength athletes, it’s also possible that some minimal level of total session stress (the stress from the combined volume and intensity in that session) has to be reached per session to optimize progress, and that the required weekly stress needed to succeed even at the highest levels of bodybuilding and powerlifting just doesn’t quite necessitate muscle group or movement frequencies higher than 3x/week in most competitors. Additionally, there is a potential risk of harm if high frequency is misapplied. Even if muscle would theoretically adapt more quickly to high frequency training, it is possible that other soft tissues (tendon, ligament, etc) would not and this could predispose someone to an injury. This is even more likely if a very high frequency is used with higher risk movements. Some people who experience manageable discomfort and tightness when performing movements 1-3x/week might develop a full-blown overuse injury when moving to a higher frequency. Also, many people simply misapply such concepts, and run a high frequency program with a high volume and intensity, and get injured quite catastrophically (which I’ve seen happen too many times). In situations such as these, where your confidence level is low for a belief (but you still believe it to be true), and there is a risk to its application, you should be very conservative in its application and promotion.
Level 5
Finally, there is level 5 information. At this level, there is sound theory and field observations, but not much else. Or, there may be some scattered indirect evidence, but it’s preliminary to say the least. For example, one or two studies on a supplement, done in vitro in a petri-dish or in animals showing the supplement positively impacts a marker that theoretically should be beneficial for hypertrophy, strength or fat loss (but the effect directly on hypertrophy, strength or fat loss wasn’t measured), would fit this category. Information at this level should not be completely dismissed, as it hasn’t been disproven, rather, it just hasn’t been directly studied. I wouldn’t advise buying a supplement with only this data, as it is just as likely to waste your money as it is to do anything useful (arguably more likely), and if it’s totally new its safety probably hasn’t been well established. Rather, just wait until it is studied.
On the other hand, for training and nutrition strategies (versus just taking a supplement), sometimes it’s unlikely it will ever be studied because of logistical issues. For example, a specific dietary or training strategy for bodybuilding or powerlifting is hard to rigorously study in a controlled setting because you would have to get two groups of athletes willing to let you manipulate and control their nutrition and training, and the placebo group has to be okay with not getting to do the potentially beneficial strategy. But, just because there isn’t good data doesn’t mean you should do nothing. If the risk of harm is low, the theory is sound, and it’s been field tested and seems to work well in practice, go for it! It’s certainly a better choice than doing nothing. For coaches and science communicators, information at this level should be promoted as anecdotal and/or theoretical, and it should be made clear that there is not really strong science to base this belief on. Indeed, you could say this is “evidence based”, but you should clarify that the evidence it is based on is your field observations and it is theoretical.
Thank you for sticking with me through this long article, I think it’s quite important for anyone interested optimizing their athletic careers or helping athletes through science. Remember, science is not black and white but those interested in it have a tendency to put things in those terms. Assess your confidence in a belief based on the available evidence, and assess the risk of harm before implementation. For coaches and communicators, state the level of confidence and the risks, the caveats and the context along with the information you put out to ensure you aren’t doing more harm than good!
Also, if you enjoyed this article about how to apply science, check out Monthly Applications in Strength Sport where I do this sort of thing every month with my colleagues Dr. Mike Zourdos and Greg Nuckols for specific studies related to strength and physique sport.
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Tyson Brown says
I really enjoyed this post, the trouble with being a trainer is obtaining new studies them and understanding them. If I’ve never gone to university how would you recommend doing this?
Eric Helms says
Great question Tyson. I would not advise just jumping in and trying to read the full text of a study right out the gates. I would probably start with a review on a given topic you are interested in, as the methods and results section are the most impenetrable when you are new to reading science and these sections aren’t in reviews. Reviews basically just have an intro and a discussion with various sub sections in most cases, with a very short methods section on how they decided which studies to review. Reviews are a good intro to reading science. Another thing I would recommend is taking a look at the various research reviews that are out there where scientists and science communicators select specific studies in a given area each month, review them, talk about their methodology and give your their take. Obviously MASS (which I link to at the end of this article) is the one I’d recommend as that is my own research review along with Greg and Mike, but James Krieger’s Weightology, Alan Aragon’s Research Review, and Chris Beardsley’s Strength and Conditioning Research Review are all top notch and I’ve read and benefitted from them all. Most of the reviews have a free issue, so you can download it, look at it and see who’s focus and writing style matches your needs best. I learned a ton when I was coming up reading Alan and James dissect studies.
Tyson Brown says
awesome thank you so much!
Michał says
Awesome article!
Harry says
This was a terrific article to read. Nuanced, balanced, reasonable thinking throughout. Thank you.
Brian Life Of says
Great read. I’d love to see a YT/Podcast called Level 6: meaning -Everything else. Jeff Nipp’s recent video citing the Steele study shows (IMO) that all the focus on science backed volume protocols has caused people to under work.
I’m surprised at all of the science on volume combined with a subjective variable like RPE. Why leave half a protocol to chance? I think intensity needs to be qualified and quantified equally and scientifically. Until science does this, knowledgeable lifters will only trust what they know anecdotally and personally. Failure in the hypertrophy range for a set is the only non negotiable intensity variable. Once performed, repeat the experience as often as you can while still recovering. Your volume lands where it lands organically. This is how many advanced natural trainees operate.
Would love to see this as a podcast topic. Particularly, intensity in the hypertrophy range as it relates to gaining LBM in the advanced lifter and consider less emphasis on volume. In short, all the emphasis on volume may be leading to what the Steele study is showing. While volume is now adequate, intensity has been deemphasized or marginalized by RPE and lifters are not gaining LBM because of it. Pendulum swung.
Thanks for all you do.
Eric Helms says
Brian, thanks I’m glad you liked the article!
With regards to the rest of your comments, I’ll happily address them. I was one of the peer reviewers on the article by Steele as you can see here (just scroll down you can see I chose to not be anonymous and all of my comments listed) https://peerj.com/articles/4105/reviews/ . Then, I subsequently wrote about the study in the most recent issue of MASS (not sure if you are a subsriber but I think the article is right up your alley in terms of interests). Jeff Nippard is one of our MASS affiliates and he made that video based on what I wrote.
Regarding your other comments, from the perspective of a scientist who does the science on this topic, I think your view of the science as a whole is not well reflected by the science itself. There are no “science backed protocols”. Individuals may claim a protocol is based on scientific principles, but science itself does not endorse protocols. Rather, science has simply established that there is a dose response curve with volume and hypertrophy; meaning, as you do more, the rate of muscle growth increases, but only to a point, at which point further increases in volume do not further increase the rate of muscle growth. Then, the rate of muscle growth begins to slow with additional increases in volume, then eventually stops and theoretically would actually decline with extreme levels of volume if they far surpassed the ability of an individual to recover from their training. To the extent which meta analyses can ascertain, we know that on average 10+ sets per week per muscle group is where the appropriate range lies, obviously differentiated by individual genetics, training history, and training age. That’s about the extent of what science can tell us about volume. Furthermore, almost all of the studies in science are on protocols training to failure, so indeed that 10+ set value is based almost completely on training to failure.
Now, I don’t know what you mean by “all of the science on volume combined with a subjective variable like RPE”. There is actually very little science combining these two aspects of training, I’ve been an author on 90% of the research ever published on the RPE scale based on repetitions in reserve, largely because the first publication came out in Jan 2016 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26049792. Compared to research on percentage 1RM, failure, etc there is next to no research in this area.
I also don’t know what you mean by “Why leave half a protocol to chance?”, RPE is not chosen by throwing a dart at a dartboard heheh, the lifter gauges how many repetitions they believe they could do if they’d gone to failure. That’s not chance. Your statement “I think intensity needs to be qualified and quantified equally and scientifically” is a reasonable statement, but misses the important distinction between intensity of load and intensity of effort. Which are not the same. While 80% of 1RM is 80% of 1RM, and is an objective way of quantifying load, how many repetitions an individual can do at 80% of 1RM can wary wildly. For example, in this study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4042664/ weightlifters were able to do ~12 repetitions on average with 80% of their leg press 1RM, while endurance runners were able to do ~20. Even among trained lifters, without comparing them to endurance athletes, there is a wide variety in how many repetitions individuals can perform at different percentages of 1RM (and I might add, this differs between exercises as well). For example, trained lifters performing an AMRAP on back squats at 70% 1RM completed anywhere from 9-26 repetitions in study I was a part of https://insights.ovid.com/crossref?an=00005768-201705001-03058&isFromRelatedArticle=Y .
So indeed, RPE based on RIR is an improvement to percentage 1RM, given telling someone to do 10 reps at 70% might result in them being 16 reps from failure, or failing on repetition 9. The actual issue is, that novices should not be using RPE, as they aren’t very good at gauging it (even though it is probably better on average than % 1RM). However, as shown by Steele’s own work, advanced lifters are HIGHLY accurate at assessing distance from true failure, and this is on the first set…subsequent sets they can obviously adjust if the first was too easy. Indeed, in Hackett 2012 Bodybuilders were within ~1 repetition when gauging reps remaining in back squats and bench press when assessed mid set (they would stop at their 10th rep with 70% and predict their remaining) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22873691 . In Steele’s study, they found that advanced lifters could predict within 0-2 reps before they even started lifting, meaning when asked “how many reps could you do with this load to failure?” those with 4+ years of training experience were highly accurate at guessing before they even picked up the weight! On the whole, we have a great deal of research showing strength athletes, bodybuilders, and resistance trained individuals can predict within 0-2 repetitions on a variety of exercises how close to failure they would be with a given load, before even picking up the weight and that resistance trained individuals broadly can accurately assess when they are 0-3 repetitions from failure mid set https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27787474 . When we are speaking about bodybuilders, powerlifters, and people who have been seriously resistance training for years, this is nowhere near “chance”.
What Steele’s study shows, is that individuals with 6 months of resistance training experience underestimate where failure lies by 3-4 reps…that doesn’t surprise me at all. However, by the time they have more experience under their belt training closer to failure, they become much more accurate. That’s the extent of the findings of Steele’s study, inferring more than that is a leap.
While failure does ensure maximum effort within a single set, there is no evidence to support the notion that training to failure is superior to training reasonably short of it when volume is similar https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5505097/ https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs40279-016-0509-x http://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Citation/2018/01000/Effect_of_Resistance_Training_to_Muscle_Failure.19.aspx and indeed, despite similar adaptations in strength and hypertrophy in the short term, acute decreases in performance, muscle damage, and anabolic/catabolic hormone balance when training to failure are higher https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16410373 and it can take an additional 24-48 hours before these markers recover to baseline even compared to matched volume of training not to failure https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28965198 , delaying when a high quality training session can occur again by a day or two. So while the system you described of always training to failure and letting the volume be decided by how/when you recover certainly can be effective, and I do indeed personally know a number of elite natural bodybuilders who train this way, this method of training can also decrease the frequency of training each muscle group within a microcycle and the within-session volumes and loads used on all subsequent sets which train the same muscle group end up lower as well due to fatigue. Given the meta analytic data I mentioned above https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27433992 showing that muscle growth increases as weekly sets go from <5, to 5-9, to 10+ (and remembering that this analysis WAS on sets to failure!), it’s safe to say this is likely not the ideal way to train.
Speaking of elite level natural bodybuilders, we have trained many here at 3DMJ, and anecdotally, we have seen increases in size and better maintenance of size while dieting when moving them from what is traditionally a 1x/week body part frequency taking most sets to failure, to an approach of training each muscle group at least 2x/week and training a few reps shy of failure on the initial compound lifts targeting a muscle group, and then, closer and to failure as they complete the final sets on isolation movements for each muscle group.
I think the mistake many people make is thinking in black and white terms, and viewing programs as either to failure or not, when in reality you can train close to failure (6-9 RPE) on certain movements at certain times and reap many of the benefits while avoiding many of the downsides, and go to failure when appropriate at certain times and for certain exercises. Fortunately, bodybuilders and strength athletes are highly accurate at gauging distance from failure, making such an approach possible.
Brian says
Eric,
Thanks for the thorough response. I’ll need to reread and digest. I missed the part in Steele indicating advanced trainees can determine within 0-2 reps when they will reach failure. My thought was if trainees miscalculate RPE enough times, in the aggregate they would be missing out on substantial gains. To solve the issue lift to failure. Of course now volume, frequency, recovery is effected. There’s the rub.
You are correct about gray v black and white. Many lifters are type A’s and (according to surveys) more serious, competitive and professional lifters are Tauruses (stubborn, methodical, inflexible) than any other sign. Problem is, lifting is gray as you say, particularly in advanced trainees where so much experimentation is required. Another rub.
Thanks again.
Eric Helms says
Brian,
Absolutely, thank you for taking the time to read, reread and digest what I wrote. Many people aren’t open to considering others’ perspectives and new information that might shift their beliefs/perspectives, but those are open to it are the ones who succeed more frequently in all facets of life. Kudos to you my friend.
Regards
Eric
Brian Life Of says
Eric, Great video you just did! Thanks for diving into Bermuda Triangle of lifting. The volume v intensity v recovery vortex. So much passion in the comments on this issue. People are clearly hungry for answers to the hardest questions, particularly seasoned lifters. Seasoned lifters (people who stay in the game) are stimulus junkies. They chase weight because its “The high.” They are addicted to increases in strength because that has been their driver for 10 + years and it worked. And they’ve gained 50 lbs of muscle. When it all but halts (and they can’t recover = strike 2) they’re lost.
They need an intervention and I believe you are providing an intervention with that video and your responses in the comments. They won’t listen to just anyone tell them to stop, put the bar down and back away from another recovery and ego crushing, session killing PR attempt. They need to know it will be “ok.”
Thanks again.
Eric Helms says
“Hi my name is Eric, and I’m a stimulus junkie”
“HI ERIC!”
🙂
Thanks man!